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ARAşTıRMA · MAKINE ÖğRENMESI arXiv:2611.12832 9 Kas 2026 · v1

What the Loss Curve Misses: FP4 Pretraining Slows the Acquisition of Rare Facts

Chang Lu, Mengjiao Zhang

YAYIN:9 Kas 2026 ALAN:cs.LG

Özet

Low-precision pretraining is usually judged by validation loss. We ask whether matching loss also means learning rare facts as efficiently. We train transformers from scratch with emulated 4-bit matrix multiplications on synthetic biographies with controlled exposure counts, on their own and mixed into web text. NVFP4 needs 1.32$times$ and 1.52$times$ as many exposures as BF16 to match its recall while validation loss differs by only 0.5% and 2%, and 1.26$times$ and 1.30$times$ when both models are evaluated with BF16 matrix multiplications. Under our primary readout, the exposure cost is about 1.2$times$ at matched loss. Zero-mean gradient noise reproduces the cost of quantizing only the backward pass, which barely moves the loss. In a controlled experiment at twice the NVFP4 error, noise fed only to Adam's second-moment estimate acts like a lower learning rate and its cost fades, whereas noise in the update lowers its signal-to-noise ratio and carries about two thirds of the cost through the end of training. Raising the learning rate to offset the smaller average step does not recover the cost, either for this noise or for NVFP4. Gradient statistics of BF16 checkpoints rank the costs of formats, partial quantizations and noise controls without fitting (Spearman 0.96). We suggest measuring rare-fact acquisition alongside loss when evaluating low-precision recipes.

Özetle: Low-precision pretraining is usually judged by validation loss.

Özet

Low-precision pretraining is usually judged by validation loss. We ask whether matching loss also means learning rare facts as efficiently. We train transformers from scratch with emulated 4-bit matrix multiplications on synthetic biographies with controlled exposure counts, on their own and mixed into web text. NVFP4 needs 1.32$times$ and 1.52$times$ as many exposures as BF16 to match its recall while validation loss differs by only 0.5% and 2%, and 1.26$times$ and 1.30$times$ when both models are evaluated with BF16 matrix multiplications. Under our primary readout, the exposure cost is about 1.2$times$ at matched loss. Zero-mean gradient noise reproduces the cost of quantizing only the backward pass, which barely moves the loss. In a controlled experiment at twice the NVFP4 error, noise fed only to Adam's second-moment estimate acts like a lower learning rate and its cost fades, whereas noise in the update lowers its signal-to-noise ratio and carries about two thirds of the cost through the end of training. Raising the learning rate to offset the smaller average step does not recover the cost, either for this noise or for NVFP4. Gradient statistics of BF16 checkpoints rank the costs of formats, partial quantizations and noise controls without fitting (Spearman 0.96). We suggest measuring rare-fact acquisition alongside loss when evaluating low-precision recipes.

Orijinal Özet (İngilizce)

Low-precision pretraining is usually judged by validation loss. We ask whether matching loss also means learning rare facts as efficiently. We train transformers from scratch with emulated 4-bit matrix multiplications on synthetic biographies with controlled exposure counts, on their own and mixed into web text. NVFP4 needs 1.32$times$ and 1.52$times$ as many exposures as BF16 to match its recall while validation loss differs by only 0.5% and 2%, and 1.26$times$ and 1.30$times$ when both models are evaluated with BF16 matrix multiplications. Under our primary readout, the exposure cost is about 1.2$times$ at matched loss. Zero-mean gradient noise reproduces the cost of quantizing only the backward pass, which barely moves the loss. In a controlled experiment at twice the NVFP4 error, noise fed only to Adam's second-moment estimate acts like a lower learning rate and its cost fades, whereas noise in the update lowers its signal-to-noise ratio and carries about two thirds of the cost through the end of training. Raising the learning rate to offset the smaller average step does not recover the cost, either for this noise or for NVFP4. Gradient statistics of BF16 checkpoints rank the costs of formats, partial quantizations and noise controls without fitting (Spearman 0.96). We suggest measuring rare-fact acquisition alongside loss when evaluating low-precision recipes.

Kaynak: arXiv:2611.12832 · PDF

BibTeX

@article{lu2026what,
  title   = {What the Loss Curve Misses: FP4 Pretraining Slows the Acquisition of Rare Facts},
  author  = {Chang Lu and Mengjiao Zhang},
  journal = {arXiv preprint arXiv:2611.12832},
  year    = {2026},
  url     = {https://arxiv.org/abs/2611.12832}
}

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